Episode 5.06 Ghost of a King

Art, faith, how culture shapes and is shaped by us, and more in The Gray Havens’ latest album

Show Notes

Chris and Stephen have a wide-ranging conversation with Dave Radford of husband-and-wife folk-pop duo The Gray Havens about the value and purpose of art, the business side of the music industry, and the process of putting together their latest album, Ghost of a King.


  • “Shadows of the Dawn,” “Band of Gold,” “Diamonds and Gold,” and “This My Soul” from Ghost of a King by The Gray Havens – used by permission. Go buy this album!
  • “Winning Slowly Theme” by Chris Krycho. Who is also deeply inspired by Tolkien, for the record.


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